Opening Books (Bin Format)

[mocipako2008]

I have NaumBook.bin 128 MB in my program, but it plays awfully slowly...
Can anybody tell me what book i should use for polyglot?
I will be very grateful if anybody can answer me!
Thanks in advance!

[chesslover89]

yes ,i also want to make a polyglot book ...a big one ...
any body knows how to make it?

[elcriollito]

ask "distant" about it

[elcriollito]

performe.bin is really good u will see on the same site u got that one if I am no wrong? right

[Waldemar]

performe.bin is really good u will see on the same site u got that one if I am no wrong? right

Como estás? I would like to know a very good book in .bin format to download, where can I find this perfome.bin or better? I prefer to use Rybka + polygot to play since I don't have a good machine, and chessbase shredder makes it slow So a .bin book to be used in winboard would be better! thanks! obrigado! hehehe

[elcriollito]

como estas mi amigo/how are u my friend

here is the links for varius books.bin .

1- here u will find the perfome.bin and varied.bin
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/download.htm

2 the Naum book.bin(4 diferent books )
http://www.superchessengine.com/naum.htm

[Waldemar]

Thanks elcriollito for the links... Now I give you my tip:
I downloaded Fritz powerbook 2007...It is fantastic...Its size is 2GB
Everybody should have it! But I know u already have it

[elcriollito]

I think I have it,I have to check in my external hard drive to make sure I have downloaded it

[Toga121par]

The performance.bin is the recommended polyglot book by most testers. i posted a link for Pavel Hase polyglot builds on this thread:
http://kilkuyu.4sql.net/phpBB3/viewtopi ... 1687#p1687

You can also try using Gunther Simon's polyglot book which is available on his site:
http://www.rwbc-chess.de/download.htm
Wow! We're lucky that he has added another polyglot book -for Rybka and Shredder. Check this out guys!

I hope this helps as well.

[elcriollito]

it is good to have very usefull info on this topic,
every day for our forum is a challenge to have the very best info about auto-play prog
I hope this never close down,I will be mising a lot my 2 house

[Toga121par]

I'm not an expert, but experience-wise, all must be guided concerning use of binary opening books, chess engine bin books or using *.*bin format opening books.

1.Naum.bin book is not a polyglot book and will only be useful using the naum engine by A. Naumov. You also need to set it up in the corresponding .cfg file of the engine. Engine authors have their own separate codes for the books. It's just coincidental that Alex used the.bin file format for his engine book.
2. Crafty's book.bin supplied with engine is not a polyglot book too. The difficult part also is that old book.bin builds could not be used using the new chess engine releases as informed by Robert Hyatt. For the latest books of Crafty 21.6 and future releases, visit Peter Skinner's webpage here:
http://www.webkikr.net/ or try Jim Ablett's Crafty book : http://www.zshare.net/download/4692590594d994/
http://craftychess.com/ -this one will link you to Bob's homesite where you he also uploaded his opening books
You can also visit his main site for his fast Crafty compiles too.
(Just set that Crafty uses his own book in the polyglot.ini. The main advantage of the polyglot adapter is that you actually use two opening books, engine book and polyglot book. Polyglot book comes first when enabled. If it gets out of book during the opening, the engine book will be used (if "own book" was enabled too). It holds true with Naum as well. Adding to this, since the Fruit engine and its derivatives like GambitFruit and Toga were built using the same coding of polyglot (understandable as Fabien Letaouzey was the prime author of Fruit and polyglot) you actually could use two separate polyglot books with these engines.)

I quoted an excerpt from the polyglot manual:

- "Book" (default: false)

Indicates whether a PolyGlot book should be used. This has no effect
on the engine own book (which can be controlled with the UCI option
"OwnBook" in the [Engine] section). In particular, it is possible to
use both a PolyGlot book and an engine book. In that case, the engine
book will be used whenever PolyGlot is out of book. Remember that
PolyGlot is unaware of whether the engine is itself using a book or
not.

Sorry if I sound like a teacher. But I think some of you may benefit from this. And please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

[chesslover89]

Correct me if i am wrong toga121par but i thought any book which is in *.bin format is a polyglot book . I mean i dont know any other way to create a *.bin book apart from polyglot..
Could you please tell me what you mean by its not a polyglot book.

Secondly i want to create a book for my winboard engine 'ruffian'.the author of engine do supply a book but its very weak .
Its format is "*.bok".Any inputs will be appreciated .

[Toga121par]

Correct me if i am wrong toga121par but i thought any book which is in *.bin format is a polyglot book . I mean i dont know any other way to create a *.bin book apart from polyglot..
Could you please tell me what you mean by its not a polyglot book.

Secondly i want to create a book for my winboard engine 'ruffian'.the author of engine do supply a book but its very weak .
Its format is "*.bok".Any inputs will be appreciated .

It just means not all .bin books are polyglot books. Crafty and Naum as examples, has their own book-making codes different from polyglot, though they use the same ".bin" file format (which also is the case for.book, .dat, .txt etc.). A classic example outside is this, a video .dat file and a chess engine database file in .dat file format.

Some authors allow book-making and some don't. If there is such a procedure to make an engine opening book, the author usually supplies some notes/instructions such as a readme.txt or the like, a script which you can read in console mode, usually when punching "help" in command prompt (but not always), or included in the FAQ in the engines website.

I have no account on possibility for Ruffian to make its opening book. Perola Valfridsson didn't include it in his readme file or even in his site: http://ruffian.hkust.se/index.shtml
You can email him here (very old email): ruffian@hkust.se

I'll recheck again my archives if there exists such a book-making procedure for Ruffian. The only possibility is getting the old distributed Ruffian CD. Maybe it's in there. I think the last available version of this strong engine is Ruffian 2.01 (year 2004).

But since Ruffian is a WB, and a UCI engine as well, you still have the option of building a customized opening book for it using polyglot. It means all UCI engines have the advantage of using a polyglot book with the adapter! If Ruffian was on a WB engine, you'll have to rely on the available ruffian.bok for the opening lines.

[Toga121par]

I just remembered that Lokasoft distributed Ruffian before, and found the answer to your query. I'll remember this too, thanks.

http://www.lokasoft.nl/howto/0005.htm

[chesslover89]

I just remembered that Lokasoft distributed Ruffian before, and found the answer to your query. I'll remember this too, thanks.

http://www.lokasoft.nl/howto/0005.htm

Thanks !