convert from .ctg to .bin?

[zappa79]

Is it possible to convert a Chessbase book format .ctg to the Polyglot format .bin?

And if so how?

[chiuauaboys]

it is very impossible. but if you find a tool for that, pls let me know first.

[Fx7_fx5]

Maybe you convert .ctg to Pgn to bin!!!

[matematiko]

Is it possible to convert a Chessbase book format .ctg to the Polyglot format .bin?

And if so how?

No, it will never be possible, and is not even needed. Polyglot books are better than ctg books, if people will just take the time to learn the art of polyglot book making and hand-tuning instead of asking for download links.

I keep beating 300 MB ctg books with my 1.5 MB bin book.

A famous guy by the name of Mark Lacrose went thru the trouble of finding out how to use polyglot books in chessbase GUIs because he thinks polyglot books are better than ctg books and I agree with him.

Cheers,

[Waldemar]

it is very impossible. but if you find a tool for that, pls let me know first.

Im here too

[KimDongHwan]

@Matematiko
Sorry for my bad English Grammar...

At the last engine war, the funtastic free engine named Houdini 1.5a (now 1.5b) beats Deep Rybka 4 with excellent score..
rumour says that it was a mistake with Opening Books..Houdini use "Zeeman_3.3.ctg" (now v3.5 released!) and Deep Rybka 4 use opening book by Jiri Dufek..
The Zeeman 3.3 or 3.5 .ctg files was around 200 MB, how can u say u can beat 200 MB Opening Book with your 1.5 MB? I assume we are using the same hardware specifications..

And about Endgame, check this:

Houdini integrates the Gaviota EGTB probing code © Miguel A. Ballicora. All information about Gaviota EGTB files can be found at the Gaviota web site.

Even without EGTB Houdini is a great performer in the end game because of its extensive built-in knowledge of basic endings (e.g. KQ v KP and KB v KBP). Knowing that the EGTB access is very slow compared to a native evaluation of the position, a generic use of EGTB might actually decrease the playing strength. To cope with this situation Houdini will vary the frequency at which the EGTB are probed depending on the end game that is occurring. In difficult endings in which the table bases are very useful (e.g. KQP v KQ or KRP v KR) Houdini will probe the EGTB files much earlier than in endings that are easy to evaluate.

taken from http://www.cruxis.com/chess/houdini.htm

Now, Houdini was unstoppable and it is clear that so many Rybka fans are very dissappointed, they keep trying and trying to beat Houdini with some experimental Engine settings but nothing..i forget from where i got this information (so many thread), but i found some interesting results from them, it says that when Rybka4 at White, the result was 44 tie, drawed by Houdini...but when Houdini at White, Rybka can only lose..
So, the best Engine team now was "Houdini 1.5b + Zeeman 3.5 Book + Gaviota EGTB"

Now, I use Houdini 1.5b + Performance.bin Book (came from Winboard 4.5b) because I have no idea how to use it with Zeeman 3.5.ctg..
We know that .ctg was for Chessbase GUI only..
The question is How can I use .ctg with Winboard??
The other question was, From your Experience, which Opening Book was the best for Rybka ,Houdini, & Stockfish?? I believe that every Engines had their best suited Opening Books..and what is the best GUI? Winboard, Arena, ChessGUI, Aquarium, or Chessbase GUI?? I don't like Chessbase GUI, but it was the only GUI which can load .ctg files..

Thanks..

[matematiko]

Read this post:
post6386.html?hilit=rybka%20adapter#p6386

There you will find info in the CTG book adapter for UCI engines.

Good luck,

[KimDongHwan]

Thanks..u r great!!
does the adapter compatible for Winboard? or for Aquarium only?
can it reduces the playing strength, since it was about 208MB to load with this adapter..

[Waldemar]

Now, I use Houdini 1.5b + Performance.bin Book (came from Winboard 4.5b) because I have no idea how to use it with Zeeman 3.5.ctg..

Is there Houdini 1.5b? Not in the official site. How you got it?

[KimDongHwan]

can i we use Adapter for winboard?

[KimDongHwan]

Is there Houdini 1.5b? Not in the official site. How you got it? [/quote]

lol

thanks for your correction...
i mean 1.5a..
im using winboard 4.5b..hahaha...

can we use adapter for winboard? to use .ctg files??
what i want to do now is to prepare Engine war between Houdini 1.5a & Deep Rybka 4..

with 2 same hardware (Core 2 Duo 2.8 Ghz, 2 GB DDR2, Intel 965 Chipset, Radeon HD3650 512MB)

Houdini 1.5a + Winboard + Zeeman 3.5.ctg (208 MB) Book
-VS-
Deep Rybka 4 (not 4.1 update, there was a little bug reported) + Aquarium + base Book that came from DR4 installation..(or maybe using that adapter for Zeeman too)

Do u know what was the best EGTB for both engines??

[Waldemar]

If you wanna run a tourney between 2 engines using ctg better go to Fritz that runs tourney very well, no need adapter. And EGTB both engines cant cant use same,

Rybka uses Nalimov
Houdini uses Gaviota

[KimDongHwan]

If you wanna run a tourney between 2 engines using ctg better go to Fritz that runs tourney very well, no need adapter. And EGTB both engines cant cant use same,

Rybka uses Nalimov
Houdini uses Gaviota

I know Fritz manage tournament very well, but I hate Fritz since it used a large memory to load the GUI, and I play with Fritz since I was a junior professional chessplayer, since Fritz 3 (DOS version), until Fritz 12..
I have all Fritz version from 3 to 12, also Chessmaster 2100 (DOS version) to 11th Grandmaster Edition..
I was so bored with Fritz GUI, I love the Lite version of GUI like Winboard..can I make Engine War between Houdini 1.5a -vs- DR4 with Winboard? I mean both Engine use the same GUI (Winboard) & Zeeman 3.5.ctg book & Gaviota EGTB..
is it possible? Thanks...

[Waldemar]

Yea. My Fritz uses 39MB to load the GUI. And winboard just 6MB. I think you can run a war under winboard but I never could set things right, if you have installed the latest winboard in C:/ check this file:

C:\WinBoard-4.5.1\PSWBTM

[sriliam]

Hi,
I get this forum inscription only to reply to the original post.
I made a beginning here.
It is possible to have a ctg to bin format converter.
For now, it take a ctg file and give a berkeley database of every position contained in the ctg file.
The ending consist to compare an all chess position motor and find it in the database.
Contact me if interest with this.